Criminal podcast, Episode 158: “If it ever happens, run.”


Criminal podcast host Phoebe Judge interviews Wilmington native and historian Cynthina Brown about her great-grandmother, Althalia Howe. Howe grew up in Wilmington, North Carolina in the late 1890s. At the time, Wilmington was called “the freest town in the country” for Black people, and by 1898, Black men had become integral in Wilmington’s government. White Supremacists in the state were determined to stop them, by “ballot or bullet or both.” Author David Zucchino is also interviewed and provides insight from his Pulitzer-Prize winning book, Wilmington’s Lie: The Murderous Coup of 1898 and the Rise of White Supremacy.